the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or compromise is not tolerated, and that extreme branch of the party who basically has been running the show i think their brand is worn-out and it's worn-out because now you have a cumulative effect of lack of policies, lack of oversight, lack of gun control, the threat of the -- we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you make all of these draconian cuts, congress unfortunately made the deal, and here we find ourselves at this cliff again. that's what is really at stake here? >> stephanie: but let's talk about that separately in a moment, but is that going to happen w